Bought the coach new with a winegard SWM sat already installed, We love the second dinette as it serves as my office when we are on the road, like the bunks we do not have any one sleep in them we use the top bunk which lowers as a storage place for all the kitchen covers. We looked at the Tour, Journey and decided on the Forza, there really is not in opinion any real difference between them as they all have the same engine make, chassis and transmission yes the tour and Journey have a bigger engine, but I put a Banks water/methanol injection system on it for about $1600 which runs on -20 degree windshield wiper fluid and when I need extra power to go up a hill a push the button I have an added 140 Horse power and about 300 more foot pounds of torque, then I just push the button again and it goes off. We did not want all the fancy wood and tile flooring or cabinets as it just adds weight and maintenance. I could not justify the extra $100,000. We love the coach and the storage, Tows great and we are getting about 10 MPG. Great Diesel pusher for the money, if you do not need all the extra décor you cannot go wrong, we have 22,000 miles in 2 years.